It’s Been A While…

I haven’t posted anything in close to a year, and I’m not even sure why.  I would think about it, I just could not seem to find the spirit to write anything.  The name of this Blog is “Thinking Out Loud”, so obviously it concerns the things that go through this brain of mine.  However, if I had written anything about what was going through my brain over this last year, it would be a mess of mumbo-jumbo.  Don’t think so?  Continue to read…(side note: all Bible verses are from the KJV, which I have had and studied for 40+ years)

  • Maybe Flat Earth is a thing?  I don’t feel like I’m moving at a high rate of speed while strolling along here.
  • Why is the word “fryingpan” in KJV Leviticus 2:7 and 7:9?  And shouldn’t it be two words?
  • Did they really have “cottages” in Jerusalem during Isaiah’s time?  Isaiah 24:20 seems to think so.
  • Why can I sit outside at night time and watch the moon slowly travel across the sky with the stars?  Shouldn’t it be moving at a different speed than the earth is, or the stars?  Maybe Flat Earth is a thing?
  • Who is Q?  Is it a group of people, or just one person having a good time at people’s expense?  Is this a set-up?
  • Did the Lord’s Prayer never say “forgive us our trespasses, as we forgive those who trespass against us”?  What prayer have I said almost nightly for 40+ years and why was it taught to me like that if it wasn’t what Matthew 6:9-13 actually said?  Why not just teach me what the Bible actually said?
  • “Spain” is in the Bible in Romans 15:24 and 15:28?  Seriously?  How odd that seems.
  • Why should people think it odd that my two sons, in their 20s, live in my house with me and my husband?  We have enough room, they have their own floor and bathroom (a must!!).  Where does it say at a certain age that families must split up?
  • Why are the stars in the same places year after year if we are all spinning through the galaxy at rates of speed different from them?  Yet there they are.  Orion’s Belt, The Big Dipper, Venus, Mars.  And the astronomers can tell me exactly when and where I can see them in the sky.
  • I think I fell down a Rabbit Hole, where up is down, and nothing I though I knew makes sense.  What if Flat Earth is a thing?
  • Why is the word “presidents” used in 5 different places in Daniel 6:2-6:7?  I am losing my mind.
  • Psalm 96:10 states “…the world also shall be established that it shall not be moved…”
  • Is the Bible saying the earth is not moving at high rates of speed through outer space?  Is Flat Earth a thing?
  • The word “stuff” is in the KJV Bible 13 times?  Genesis 45:20 “Also regard not your stuff; for the good of all the land of Egypt [is] yours.”  My brain is on overload.

This is just a small sample of what goes through my brain on a daily basis.  How is it possible to sit and write short essays on what I am thinking, when I am not sure what I am thinking?  At the very least, it is not possible to have a conversation with anyone “normal” about these things, because they immediately start to argue how wrong I am, and that this is all crazy talk.  Family, friends, my husband…the list grows longer each day with the ones I no longer have the “what if” conversations with, which is kind of sad in a way.

My conclusions thus far?  I am not a conspiracy theorist, I prefer Critical Thinker.  Things that make you think outside the box should also make you curious enough to study and research, even if it turns out that you (I) am wrong about some things. And maybe, just maybe, Flat Earth IS a thing.

Posted in Biblical, Critical Thinking, Flat Earth, Uncategorized | Tagged , , , | 3 Comments

The Book of Jubilees – Chapter 2 – The 4th day of creation

Jubilees 2:8-10 give us the account of the 4th day of creation.  Three (3) kinds were created by YHWH on this day.  They are:

  1.   The Sun
  2.   The Moon
  3.   The Stars

Verse 8 tell us these were created by YHWH and set in the firmament of heaven, to give light upon all the earth, to rule over the day and night and to divide the light from darkness.

Verse 9 describes in detail the reason or duties of the sun.  The sun is to be a great sign on the earth for the following things:  for days, for Sabbaths, for months, for feasts, for years, for Sabbath of years, for Jubilees, for all the seasons of the years.  (Seasons = moedim/feasts).  Verse 10 then tells us it divides the light from the darkness and for prosperity, that all things on earth may prosper.

I will admit I am puzzled by the fact that none of these verses gives details about the moon and stars.  It gives details on the light but not the darkness.  Is this on purpose?

Genesis 1:14-19   And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years:  And let them be for lights in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth: and it was so.  And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also.  And God set them in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth, And to rule over the day and over the night, and to divide the light from the darkness: and God saw that it was good.  And the evening and the morning were the fourth day.

Enoch 72:37 gives us this detail about the sun and moon.  “As he rises, so he sets and decreases not, and rests not, but runs day and night, and his light is sevenfold brighter than that of the moon; but as regards size they are both equal.”

(If you are interested, Enoch 78 goes into great detail about both the sun and moon, including their names.  It tells us the sun has 2 names and the moon has 4 names.)

Psalm 148:3  Praise ye him, sun and moon: praise him, all ye stars of light.

Deuteronomy 33:14  And for the precious fruits brought forth by the sun, and for the precious things put forth by the moon,

Jeremiah 31:35  Thus saith the LORD, which giveth the sun for a light by day, and the ordinances of the moon and of the stars for a light by night, which divideth the sea when the waves thereof roar; The LORD of hosts is his name:

1 Corinthians 15:41   There is one glory of the sun, and another glory of the moon, and another glory of the stars: for one star differeth from another star in glory.

Baruch haba b’shem YHWH.

 

Posted in Apocrypha, Biblical, Flat Earth, Religion, Sabbath, Torah | Tagged , , , , , , , | Leave a comment

The Book of Jubilees – Chapter 2 – The 3rd day of creation

Jubilees 2:5-7 describes the 3rd day of creation.  This day consisted of 4 great works by YHWH.

  •  the waters passed of the face of the Earth
  •  dry land appears
  •  created all the seas, rivers, lakes and the dew
  •  created all seed which is sown, all plants after their kind, the trees, and The Garden of Eden, in Eden

So let’s take a closer look at these things.

Verse 5 says that YHWH commanded the waters to pass off the face of the earth into one place and dry land to appear.  Verse 6 lets us know that the waters retired from off the face of the earth into one place OUTSIDE of this firmament.  I believe that the waters are above this firmament, our sky if you will, and is what gives us the blue sky we see.  It would also make sense as to why the stars appear to be under water when viewed through a telescope or other means (but the stars are for another day).

Verse 7 states YHWH created all the gathered water upon the earth.  It specifically says HE created all the seas according to their separate gathering places, all the rivers, and the waters upon the mountains and on all the earth, all the lakes, and all the dew on the earth.  Verse 7 then goes on to say HE created the plants and trees, both of which are categorized in two ways.  The plants are 1) all the seed which is sown and 2) all sprouting things.  The trees are 1) fruit-bearing trees and 2) the trees of the wood.  Verse 7 ends by telling us that the last thing YHWH created on day 3 was the garden of Eden, in Eden, and all (plants after their kind).

The garden of Eden is the only place on earth listed by name in the creation account for day 3.  At this point, it is the only place with a name on the earth which we are privy to know.

Genesis 1:9-13     And God said, Let the waters under the heaven be gathered together unto one place, and let the dry land appear: and it was so.  And God called the dry land Earth; and the gathering together of the waters called he Seas: and God saw that it was good.  And God said, Let the earth bring forth grass, the herb yielding seed, and the fruit tree yielding fruit after his kind, whose seed is in itself, upon the earth: and it was so.  And the earth brought forth grass, and herb yielding seed after his kind, and the tree yielding fruit, whose seed was in itself, after his kind: and God saw that it was good.  And the evening and the morning were the third day.

Baruch haba b’shem YHWH.

Posted in Apocrypha, Biblical, Religion, Torah | Tagged , , , , , , | Leave a comment

Thoughts on Passover

Passover is coming up in April.  I will be keeping the feast on April 8, with Unleavened Bread beginning on April 9 until April 15.  So I have been doing some study on Passover.  Exodus, Leviticus, Deuteronomy, Matthew, Mark, Luke and John all have information about this feast, along with other books.  This has caused some thoughts to come to my mind, which may cause me to study this for some time to come.
Before I go any further, I believe that Yeshua/Jesus is our Passover Lamb.  He died for us, so that we would not be under the death penalty of the Law.  Through Him, we can be redeemed and have life everlasting.  This is the basis of my faith.  Without Him, I can do nothing.  Without Him, I am nothing.
Now some information on the Passover lamb from Exodus and Deuteronomy.  On the 10th day of the first month (Abib) the Israelites were to take a lamb, without blemish, a male of the first year, for their house (Exo 12:3-5).  Then on the 14th day of the month, the lamb was to be sacrificed and then eaten in a very specific way.  The lamb was to be killed in the evening, at even, at the going down of the sun, outside of their gates.  Then the lamb was roasted and eaten in the place YHWH chose, after which the Israelites shall turn in the morning and go unto their tents (Exo 12:6, Deut 16:5-7).  Neither shall any of the flesh that was sacrificed remain all night until the morning (Exo 34:25, Deut 16:4).  In one house shall it be eaten, they shall not carry forth any of the flesh out of the house, and neither shall any bones be broken (Exo 12:46).
Yeshua/Jesus, as our Passover Lamb, must fit these requirements.  Period.  There is no other option.  If He doesn’t fit the requirements, then it is our thinking or interpretation that must be incorrect.
My thinking then turned to this:
First:  the last supper could not have been Passover, as the meal would be eaten after the lamb was slain.  Yeshua/Jesus would not have been alive to partake of the meal.  Also, if it was the Passover meal, they would not have left the house until morning.  Yeshua/Jesus went to the garden to pray.  This is where he was arrested.
Second:  the lamb was to be 1 yr old, with no blemish.  Yeshua/Jesus had no blemish, as he was without sin.  But to be considered 1 year old, wouldn’t this mean that his ministry could not have been 3.5 years with the disciples?  From His baptism to death would need to be 1 year.  The Passover lamb could not be not older than that.
Third:  He died on the cross, outside of the city gates, about the 6th hour, and was removed from the cross about the 9th hour and placed in the tomb.  This fulfills the “slain at evening”, “outside the city gates” and “no flesh shall remain until morning”.
Fourth:  None of his bones were broken, which fulfilled that requirement.
I shall study more on the 1st and 2nd thoughts…
Posted in Biblical, Critical Thinking, Passover, Religion, Sabbath, Torah, Uncategorized | Tagged , , , , , | Leave a comment

The Book of Jubilees – Chapter 2 – The 2nd day of creation

Jubilees 2:4 is the verse that details the 2nd day of creation.  On this day YHWH created one great work:  the Firmament over the face of the earth in the midst of the waters.

2:4  “And on the second day HE created the firmament in the midst of the waters, and the waters were divided on that day – half of them went up above and half of them went down below the firmament (that was) in the midst over the face of the whole earth.  And this was the only work YHWH created on the second day.”

It says that the waters were divided, half above the firmament and half below the firmament.  The word for firmament is “raqia” which means solid firmament, extended surface, expanse.  It is the visible arch of the sky.  It is a Dome.

I didn’t write a lot of notes on this verse, as I believe it is pretty self-explanatory.  There were a couple of questions I wrote down.

  • the KJV mentions multiple heavens in several verses.  Does this mean that there are multiple firmaments?
  •  the Rainbow that is set in the sky as a sign is arched.  Does the rainbow follow the shape of the firmament?  Is it light reflecting off of the dome during/after a rain shower?

Several of the KJV verses that correlate with this verse are listed here:

Gen 1:6-8  And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters.  7 And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so.  8 And God called the firmament Heaven. And the evening and the morning were the second day.

Psalm 148:4 Praise him, ye heavens of heavens, and ye waters that be above the heavens.

Psalm 19:1   [[To the chief Musician, A Psalm of David.]] The heavens declare the glory of God; and the firmament sheweth his handywork.

Eze 1:25   And there was a voice from the firmament that was over their heads, when they stood, and had let down their wings.

Eze 1:26   And above the firmament that was over their heads was the likeness of a throne, as the appearance of a sapphire stone: and upon the likeness of the throne was the likeness as the appearance of a man above upon it.

Eze 10:1   Then I looked, and, behold, in the firmament that was above the head of the cherubims there appeared over them as it were a sapphire stone, as the appearance of the likeness of a throne.

Dan 12:3   And they that be wise shall shine as the brightness of the firmament; and they that turn many to righteousness as the stars for ever and ever.

There are also several verses in the KJV Bible that refer to the windows of heaven:

Gen 7:11  In the six hundredth year of Noah’s life, in the second month, the seventeenth day of the month, the same day were all the fountains of the great deep broken up, and the windows of heaven were opened.

Gen 8:2  The fountains also of the deep and the windows of heaven were stopped, and the rain from heaven was restrained;

2 Kings 7:2  Then a lord on whose hand the king leaned answered the man of God, and said, Behold, if the LORD would make windows in heaven, might this thing be? And he said, Behold, thou shalt see it with thine eyes, but shalt not eat thereof.

2 Kings 7:19   And that lord answered the man of God, and said, Now, behold, if the LORD should make windows in heaven, might such a thing be? And he said, Behold, thou shalt see it with thine eyes, but shalt not eat thereof.

Malachi 3:10   Bring ye all the tithes into the storehouse, that there may be meat in mine house, and prove me now herewith, saith the LORD of hosts, if I will not open you the windows of heaven, and pour you out a blessing, that there shall not be room enough to receive it.

Baruch Haba B’shem YHWH.

Posted in Apocrypha, Biblical, Flat Earth, Religion, Torah | Tagged , , , , , | Leave a comment

The Book of Jubilees – Chapter 2 – The 1st day of creation

Jubilees Chapter 2 begins by letting us know that the Angel of the presence spoke to Moses and gave him the creation account.  How in six days YHWH finished all His works and all He created, and kept the Sabbath on the seventh day.  YHWH hallowed it for all ages and appointed it as a sign for all His works.

Jubilees 2:2 tells us that on the 1st day of creation, YHWH completed seven great works. Verse 3 says that when the Angels saw His works, they praised Him.  I will list verses from the KJV Bible for reference in just a moment.

The seven great works are listed as:

  1.   The Heavens above
  2.   The Earth
  3.   The Waters
  4.   The Spirits which serve before Him
  5.   The Abysses
  6.   The Darkness, eventide and night
  7.   The Light, dawn and day

The Spirits are listed as:

  • The Angels of the presence
  • The Angels of sanctification
  •  The Angels of the spirit of fire
  •  The Angels of the spirit of winds
  •  The Angels of the spirit of clouds, of darkness, of snow, of hail, of hoarfrost
  •  The Angels of the voices, of the thunder, of the lightning
  •  The Angels of the cold, of heat, of winter, of spring, of autumn, of summer
  •  The Angels of all the spirits of His creatures which are in the heavens and on earth

Some of the things I noted about these verses are the following.  The use of the word Heavens makes me believe there are multiple heavens.  The same with the word Abysses, which is plural.  The Spirits are broken down into 2 types of Angels, 16 types of Angels of spirits in addition to the Angels of the spirits of all creatures.  I also noted that while the darkness and the light were created, this was not the sun, moon or stars.  I equate the Abysses to the pit / nether parts / Sheol spoken of in various verses in the KJV Bible.

Here are some the verses in the KJV Bible which I believe correlate to this portion of Jubilees.  I’m only going to provide 2 verses from Job 38, but I think the entire chapter goes right along with this.  I’m sure there are plenty more, but these are the ones that I jotted down.

Gen 1:1-5  In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.  2 And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.  3 And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.  4 And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness.  5 And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day.

Deut. 10:14  Behold, the heaven and the heaven of heavens is the LORD’S thy God, the earth also, with all that therein is.

Job 38:4  Where wast thou when I laid the foundations of the earth? declare, if thou hast understanding.

Job 38:7  When the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for joy?

Eze. 31:16  I made the nations to shake at the sound of his fall, when I cast him down to hell with them that descend into the pit: and all the trees of Eden, the choice and best of Lebanon, all that drink water, shall be comforted in the nether parts of the earth.

2 Cor 12:2  I knew a man in Christ above fourteen years ago, (whether in the body, I cannot tell; or whether out of the body, I cannot tell: God knoweth;) such an one caught up to the third heaven.

Rev. 7:1-2  And after these things I saw four angels standing on the four corners of the earth, holding the four winds of the earth, that the wind should not blow on the earth, nor on the sea, nor on any tree.  2 And I saw another angel ascending from the east, having the seal of the living God: and he cried with a loud voice to the four angels, to whom it was given to hurt the earth and the sea,

Baruch haba b’shem YHWH.

 

Posted in Apocrypha, Biblical, Critical Thinking, Religion, Sabbath, Torah, Uncategorized | Tagged , , , , , | Leave a comment

The Book of Jubilees

Proverbs 25:2  It is the glory of YHWH to conceal a thing, but the honor of kings to search out a matter.

It has been said that there are books that have been concealed until the end times.  I started to research these books, purchasing several different books to read.  I enjoy reading, so this was not going to be a struggle for me.

I began to read the Apocrypha books, such as Enoch, 2nd Esdras, the Book of Adam and Eve, along with the other books to get a more rounded knowledge of scripture.  The books have to line up with scripture and pass the Deut 13 test of a prophet for me to be comfortable reading them, to consider them as possible companion books to the Bible.  

I have been reading and studying the Book of Jubilees for several weeks, especially on Sabbath.  I have found it a fascinating book thus far, although I still have several chapters left to read.  While I have been reading it, along with watching videos about the book, I have been taking notes on each chapter.  It has made me think deeper about some of the stories in the Bible that I have grown up reading, giving them a more in-depth back story as it were.

The Book of Jubilees is the complete history of creation.  It is the conversation/teaching that YHWH gave to Moses on top of Mt. Sinai during the 40 days and nights Moses spent there during the exodus.

  • Jubilees was found written in paleo-Hebrew in the Dead Sea Scrolls, of which 15 complete copies were authenticated
  •  YHWH taught Moses the earlier and the later history of the division of all the days of the law and the testimony (Chap 1:4)
  •  It is the history from the beginning of creation until YHWHs sanctuary has been build among Israel for all eternity
  • Jubilees was written on tables of stone (sapphire?) by the Angel of the Presence per YHWHs instruction (Chap 1:27)
  • The Angel of the Presence went before Israel in the wilderness (Chap. 1:29)
  •  A Jubilee is the 50th year and also the 1st year of the next set of 49 years.
  • Jacob and his seed was granted that they should always be blessed and holy ones of the first testimony and law.

Chapter 2 is the account of the creation days, which I find absolutely fascinating.  I have decided to write a 7 part series that covers my notes on Chapter 2 of Jubilees.  One post for each day, on the notes I have taken down.

Baruch Haba B’Shem YHWH

Posted in Apocrypha, Biblical, Critical Thinking, Religion, Sabbath, Torah, Uncategorized | Tagged , , , , | Leave a comment

Who did Moses meet on Mt. Sinai?

Most people think that when Moses went up Mt. Sinai at YHWH’s command, that it was Yeshua/Jesus that Moses spent 40 days with, who gave him the two tables of commandments and the law.  Or that it was the angel of the Lord.  The verse most used for this is reasoning is John 6:46 “No one has seen the Father except the one who is from God; only he has seen the Father.”

Let’s take a look at the entire scenario from the KJV Bible.  We will start in Exodus 19 for this.

Verse 1 and 2 tells us that in the third month, after the children of Israel had departed Egypt, they came to the desert of Sinai, and there they camped before the mount.  Verse 3 tells us that YHWH called to Moses out of the mountain.  Verse 9 says that YHWH will come in a thick cloud, that the people may hear what YHWH says to Moses.

Exodus 19:11 And be ready against the third day: for the third day the LORD will come down in the sight of all the people upon mount Sinai.

So it seems from this that YHWH is going to show himself in a thick cloud to the children of Israel.  Verse 18 confirms that YWHW descended upon the mountain.

Exodus 19:18  And mount Sinai was altogether on a smoke, because the LORD descended upon it in fire: and the smoke thereof ascended as the smoke of a furnace, and the whole mount quaked greatly.  19 And when the voice of the trumpet sounded long, and waxed louder and louder, Moses spake, and God answered him by a voice.  20 And the LORD came down upon mount Sinai, on the top of the mount: and the LORD called Moses up to the top of the mount; and Moses went up.

Chapter 20 explains that the people saw YHWH speaking to Moses, through the thunderings and lightnings, and the noise of the trumpet.  They were frightened and wanted Moses to talk to YAH for them.

Chapter 21 – 23 list the commandments and the judgements, all the words that YHWH spoke to Moses.

Chapter 24 begins with YHWH calling Moses to come up unto HIM.  Verse 9 Then went up Moses, and Aaron, Nadab, and Abihu, and seventy of the elders of Israel:  10 And they saw the God of Israel: and there was under his feet as it were a paved work of a sapphire stone, and as it were the body of heaven in his clearness.  11 And upon the nobles of the children of Israel he laid not his hand: also they saw God, and did eat and drink.

Chapter 25-30 describes what YHWH spoke to Moses during the 40 days and nights he was on the mountain.

Chapter 31 ends with Exodus 31:18  And he gave unto Moses, when he had made an end of communing with him upon mount Sinai, two tables of testimony, tables of stone, written with the finger of God.

Exodus 33:11 And the LORD spake unto Moses face to face, as a man speaketh unto his friend…

Exodus 33:20 And he said, Thou canst not see my face: for there shall no man see me, and live.  21 And the LORD said, Behold, there is a place by me, and thou shalt stand upon a rock:  22 And it shall come to pass, while my glory passeth by, that I will put thee in a clift of the rock, and will cover thee with my hand while I pass by:  23 And I will take away mine hand, and thou shalt see my back parts: but my face shall not be seen.

Exodus 34:5 And the LORD descended in the cloud, and stood with him there, and proclaimed the name of the LORD.

Exodus 34:28 And he was there with the LORD forty days and forty nights; he did neither eat bread, nor drink water. And he wrote upon the tables the words of the covenant, the ten commandments.  29 And it came to pass, when Moses came down from mount Sinai with the two tables of testimony in Moses’ hand, when he came down from the mount, that Moses wist not that the skin of his face shone while he talked with him.  33 And till Moses had done speaking with them, he put a vail on his face.

So after Moses came down the mountain the first time with the two tables of commandments written by the finger of YHWH, he broke them in pieces when he realized that the children of Israel had Aaron make them a golden calf to worship.  In chapter 34 Moses had to return to the mountain with new tables of stone on which the commandments would be written a second time.  This is two different times of 40 days and nights that Moses spent on the mountain.

The reason I asked who did Moses meet on the mountain comes from my reading of Exodus 34:29.  Moses’ face shone so brightly that he had to veil himself to speak to the children of Israel.  So I started to think about it and began to question what I had always thought, which is that Moses spoke with either Yeshua or The angel of YHWH on the mountain.

The apostles spent a lot of time with Yeshua during his ministry and never once did any of them have to cover their faces after meeting with him.   Even after witnessing the transfiguration, no one wore a veil.  The Angel of YHWH and two other angels meet with Abraham, ate and drank with Abraham, and then visited Lot in Sodom.  Neither of them had to cover their faces after the visits.

So what does the scripture say?  The ten commandments were written by the finger of YHWH.

Although Moses may not have seen the face of YHWH, as Exodus 33:20 says, I do believe that Moses saw the glory of YAH and spent two separate times of 40 days and nights with YHWH, along with meeting YAH in the tabernacle between the times spent on the mountain.

What are your thoughts?

Posted in Biblical, Critical Thinking, Religion, Sabbath, Uncategorized | Leave a comment

Who is Lucifer?

What a weird question right?  Everyone knows that Lucifer is Satan.  But is this the correct answer?

As I was doing my Sabbath study today, I heard something that made me start questioning who Lucifer actually is or represents.  So I started looking into it.  This is what I have discovered so far.

Lucifer is only mentioned in the Bible by name once, in Isaiah 14:12.  “How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning!  how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!” (KJV)  Lucifer is translated from the Hebrew word heylel, Strongs H1966.

Isaiah 14:13 “For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north:  14 I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High.  15 Yet thou shalt be brought down to hell, to the sides of the pit.”

Isaiah 14:16 “They that see thee shall narrowly look upon thee, and consider thee, saying, Is this the man that made the earth to tremble, that did shake kingdoms;”

Notice what it says?  “Is this the man…”  So it is stating that Lucifer is a man.  What am I missing?  So let’s look at the rest of the verses here.

Isaiah 14:17 “That made the world as a wilderness, and destroyed the cities thereof; that opened not the house of his prisoners?  18 All the kings of the nations, even all of them, lie in glory, every one in his own house.  19 But thou art cast out of thy grave like an abominable branch, and as the raiment of those that are slain, thrust through with a sword, that go down to the stones of the pit; as a carcase trodden under feet.  20 Thou shalt not be joined with them in burial, because thou hast destroyed thy land, and slain thy people: the seed of evildoers shall never be renowned.  21 Prepare slaughter for his children for the iniquity of their fathers; that they do not rise, nor possess the land, nor fill the face of the world with cities.  22 For I will rise up against them, saith the LORD of hosts, and cut off from Babylon the name, and remnant, and son, and nephew, saith the LORD.  23 I will also make it a possession for the bittern, and pools of water: and I will sweep it with the besom of destruction, saith the LORD of hosts.  24 The LORD of hosts hath sworn, saying, Surely as I have thought, so shall it come to pass; and as I have purposed, so shall it stand:  25 That I will break the Assyrian in my land, and upon my mountains tread him under foot: then shall his yoke depart from off them, and his burden depart from off their shoulders.”

 

 

Posted in Uncategorized | Leave a comment

Who is Lucifer?

What a weird question right?  Everyone knows that Lucifer is Satan.  But is this the correct answer?

As I was doing my Sabbath study today, I heard something that made me start questioning who Lucifer actually is or represents.  So I started looking into it.  This is what I have discovered so far.

Lucifer is only mentioned in the Bible by name once, in Isaiah 14:12.  “How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning!  how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!” (KJV)

Lucifer is translated from the Hebrew word heylel, Strongs H1966, which only occurs once in the KJV.  It means “light-bearer”, shining one, morning star; of the king of Babylon and Satan.  In the TWOT, ‘Helel’ describing the king of Babylon. (TWOT stands for the Theological Wordbook of the Old Testament, edited by R. Laird Harris, GLeason L. Archer, Jr., and Bruce K. Waltke. TWOT deals with the Hebrew/Aramaic words in the Old Testament that have a theological significance. It gives a short definition to every Old Testament word, but goes theologically in depth on the words that would be necessary.)

By these definitions, it would seem that Lucifer refers to the king of Babylon.

Let’s continue with the next verses.

Isaiah 14:13 “For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north:  14 I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High.  15 Yet thou shalt be brought down to hell, to the sides of the pit.  16 They that see thee shall narrowly look upon thee, and consider thee, saying, Is this the man that made the earth to tremble, that did shake kingdoms;”

Notice what it says?  “Is this the man…”  So it is stating that Lucifer is a man.  It occurs to me that this is also what Nimrod thought as a reason to build the tower of Babel.  So Lucifer and Nimrod apparently had the same idea.  Let’s look at the rest of the verses here.

Isaiah 14:17 “That made the world as a wilderness, and destroyed the cities thereof; that opened not the house of his prisoners?  18 All the kings of the nations, even all of them, lie in glory, every one in his own house.  19 But thou art cast out of thy grave like an abominable branch, and as the raiment of those that are slain, thrust through with a sword, that go down to the stones of the pit; as a carcase trodden under feet.  20 Thou shalt not be joined with them in burial, because thou hast destroyed thy land, and slain thy people: the seed of evildoers shall never be renowned.  21 Prepare slaughter for his children for the iniquity of their fathers; that they do not rise, nor possess the land, nor fill the face of the world with cities.  22 For I will rise up against them, saith the LORD of hosts, and cut off from Babylon the name, and remnant, and son, and nephew, saith the LORD.  23 I will also make it a possession for the bittern, and pools of water: and I will sweep it with the besom of destruction, saith the LORD of hosts.  24 The LORD of hosts hath sworn, saying, Surely as I have thought, so shall it come to pass; and as I have purposed, so shall it stand:  25 That I will break the Assyrian in my land, and upon my mountains tread him under foot: then shall his yoke depart from off them, and his burden depart from off their shoulders.”

A few other things I have noticed in these verses.

In verse 19, it says “thou art cast out of thy grave…”  Satan has never been in a grave, but it seems that Lucifer has.  Nimrod has been in a grave also.

Verse 20 states “…thou hast destroyed thy land, and slain thy people…”  Does Satan have a land and people?  He is the prince of the air, but I can not find anything that says specifically that he has land and people.  Lucifer possibly refers to the king of Babylon per Strongs Concordance and TWOT.  Nimrod had land and people, he was a mighty hunter and king in the plains of Shinar.

Verse 21 then says “Prepare slaughter for his children for the iniquity of their fathers…”  Does Satan have physical children, as this seems to suggest?  Did Lucifer have children?  Did Nimrod have children?

Verse 22 follows with “…and cut off from Babylon the name, and remnant, and son, and nephew…”  This seems to infer that it is a family name that is destroyed.  Does Satan or Lucifer have a family name that was known in Babylon?  If Lucifer refers to the king of Babylon, he would have had a name that was known. Nimrod was known, as he was a mighty hunter before the Lord. 

Verse 25 says “That I will break the Assyrian in my land…”  Well, then, that was a surprise.  How did we get from Lucifer to the Assyrian in one chapter?  Does Nimrod have any connection to the Assyrian?  Let’s check the Bible.

Micah 5:6 “And they shall waste the land of Assyria with the sword, and the land of Nimrod in the entrances thereof: thus shall he deliver us from the Assyrian, when he cometh into our land, and when he treadeth within our borders.”

So what is the connection between Lucifer, Nimrod and the Assyrian?  Are they referring to the same person?  If so, this means that they would all refer to the king of Babylon.

I have to do some more studying.

Posted in Biblical, Critical Thinking, Religion | Leave a comment

Thoughts on Genesis

Genesis 3:6  And when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree to be desired to make one wise, she took of the fruit thereof, and did eat, and gave also unto her husband with her; and he did eat.

Isaiah 61:3 …that they might be called trees of righteousness, the planting of YHWH, that he might be glorified.

Psalm 1:3  And he shall be like a tree planted by the rivers of water, that bringeth forth his fruit in his season; his leaf also shall not wither; and whatsoever he doeth shall prosper.

Mark 8:24  And he looked up, and said, I see men as trees, walking.

Matthew 12:33  Either make the tree good, and his fruit good; or else make the tree corrupt, and his fruit corrupt; for the tree is known by his fruit.

In some places in the Bible, people and Angels are referenced as trees.  Their fruit is what they bring forth, either by word or deed.  This is stated many times also in the Bible.

In Genesis 3, Adam and Eve ate of the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil.  Could this mean that they “ate” or “listened” of the tree “a fallen angel” to “teaching” other than that of YHWH?  The “apple” could have been a doctrine or teaching that fell on “itching ears”.  They listened to a false doctrine like new age.  Be like God, you are God. 

Satan even said as much in Genesis 3:5.  “For YHWH doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be a gods, knowing good and evil.”

So YHWH clothed them with coats of skin (flesh) and they lost their bright nature and had to leave the garden.  They could not stay in the Garden being of two minds, as stated in Matthew 6:24.  “No one can serve two masters, for either he will hate the one and love the other; or else he will devoted to one and despise the other.  You can’t serve both YHWH and Mammon.”

For this, they lost their bright nature, their home in the Garden, their chance to partake of the Tree of Life (Yeshua).  The sin that entered into the world through their actions affects us all.   This should make us want to learn to walk as YHWH would have us do, study His word and try to walk as Yeshua walked.

The most important question would be…Who do you serve this day?

Posted in Biblical, Critical Thinking, Love, Religion, Uncategorized | Tagged , , , , | Leave a comment